Comments for Marketing FLOSS http://www.italovignoli.org You've got to be very careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there. (Yogi Berra) Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:00:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on Thanks, Mr Weir by Sum Yung Gai http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/thanks-mr-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-1112 Sum Yung Gai Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:00:34 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/thanks-mr-weir/#comment-1112 The community is LibreOffice, and Mr. Weir knows it. That's why he's scared. It's his ego on the line now, and this is a shame, because there was a time when what he said made some sense. But now LibreOffice is at version 4.0 and they haven't looked back yet. I have long since replaced the older (pre-Oracle) OpenOffice.org 3.x installations with LibreOffice, and it's been smooth sailing. The original OpenOffice.org got us started. The future is its true descendant--both in code and in spirit--LibreOffice. Thank you to the LibreOffice team for having the chutzpah to do what needed to be done. --SYG The community is LibreOffice, and Mr. Weir knows it. That’s why he’s scared. It’s his ego on the line now, and this is a shame, because there was a time when what he said made some sense. But now LibreOffice is at version 4.0 and they haven’t looked back yet. I have long since replaced the older (pre-Oracle) OpenOffice.org 3.x installations with LibreOffice, and it’s been smooth sailing.

The original OpenOffice.org got us started. The future is its true descendant–both in code and in spirit–LibreOffice.

Thank you to the LibreOffice team for having the chutzpah to do what needed to be done.

–SYG

]]> Comment on Thanks, Mr Weir by LibreOffice 4.0 And The Power of Brands « keithcu.com http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/thanks-mr-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-1111 LibreOffice 4.0 And The Power of Brands « keithcu.com Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:49:55 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/thanks-mr-weir/#comment-1111 [...] People in the Linux community are aware of the situation, but many don’t realize that there is very little LibreOffice can do to improve things. LibreOffice cannot prevent new forks from being created, and no one inside was threatening to fork. LibreOffice couldn’t prevent Oracle from giving away the trademark to anyone. LibreOffice couldn’t prevent Apache from creating a project that doesn’t accept their code. LibreOffice can’t prevent new people from getting confused when they see Apache, OpenOffice, and a pretty website, not realizing this is basically the “pet project” of an IBM employee. [...] [...] People in the Linux community are aware of the situation, but many don’t realize that there is very little LibreOffice can do to improve things. LibreOffice cannot prevent new forks from being created, and no one inside was threatening to fork. LibreOffice couldn’t prevent Oracle from giving away the trademark to anyone. LibreOffice couldn’t prevent Apache from creating a project that doesn’t accept their code. LibreOffice can’t prevent new people from getting confused when they see Apache, OpenOffice, and a pretty website, not realizing this is basically the “pet project” of an IBM employee. [...]

]]> Comment on Really, Mr Weir ? by KeithCu http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/really-mr-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-1085 KeithCu Tue, 20 Nov 2012 09:14:09 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/really-mr-weir/#comment-1085 One of the funniest jokes I've heard in weeks is how you call OpenOffice Rob Weir's pet project. Thanks for the laugh! One of the funniest jokes I’ve heard in weeks is how you call OpenOffice Rob Weir’s pet project. Thanks for the laugh!

]]> Comment on NAIF Metrics by FGM http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/10/naif-metrics/comment-page-1/#comment-1077 FGM Thu, 15 Nov 2012 10:43:13 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=874#comment-1077 Using ccTLDs as a basis for countries is a far stretch from most current representations of reality. On that basis, my own country (France) counts for: .fr, .gf, .gp, .mq, .nc, .pm, .pf, .re, .tf, .wf, .yt, and yet I can hardly imagine claiming that France means 11 "countries". As ISO 3166 describes: it lists "countries AND THEIR SUBDIVISIONS" (emphasis added), so having an entry in 3166-1 does not make some territory a country. Using ccTLDs as a basis for countries is a far stretch from most current representations of reality. On that basis, my own country (France) counts for: .fr, .gf, .gp, .mq, .nc, .pm, .pf, .re, .tf, .wf, .yt, and yet I can hardly imagine claiming that France means 11 “countries”.

As ISO 3166 describes: it lists “countries AND THEIR SUBDIVISIONS” (emphasis added), so having an entry in 3166-1 does not make some territory a country.

]]> Comment on Really, Mr Weir ? by Rob Weir http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/really-mr-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-1055 Rob Weir Sun, 04 Nov 2012 01:03:03 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/really-mr-weir/#comment-1055 Actually, I've seen occasions when a journalist was fooled in this way. One was an article on the Huffington Post, an online article about cost-savings by using open source software. This was a consumer-oriented article, not written by journalists who cover open source normally. They recommended OpenOffice. But after the article was up for a few hours it was changed to say that OpenOffice was no longer being developed and that LibreOffice was the replacement. Of course, after I contacted the author, they changed it back and were embarrassed and apologetic that they had been fooled into changing it in the first place. These facts were discussed at the AOO mailing list at the time. Oh, and by the way, the article is here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/09/10-free-windows-programs-everyone-needs_n_1659856.html#slide=1206872 It shows a record of the changes. So yes, I do think journalists can be trusting and be abused by misleading information fed to them from LibreOffice supporters. I've seen it happen. And I don't think that asking LibreOffice supporters to stop their FUD should be called FUD. That is just more FUD. Actually, I’ve seen occasions when a journalist was fooled in this way. One was an article on the Huffington Post, an online article about cost-savings by using open source software. This was a consumer-oriented article, not written by journalists who cover open source normally. They recommended OpenOffice. But after the article was up for a few hours it was changed to say that OpenOffice was no longer being developed and that LibreOffice was the replacement. Of course, after I contacted the author, they changed it back and were embarrassed and apologetic that they had been fooled into changing it in the first place.

These facts were discussed at the AOO mailing list at the time.

Oh, and by the way, the article is here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/09/10-free-windows-programs-everyone-needs_n_1659856.html#slide=1206872

It shows a record of the changes.

So yes, I do think journalists can be trusting and be abused by misleading information fed to them from LibreOffice supporters. I’ve seen it happen. And I don’t think that asking LibreOffice supporters to stop their FUD should be called FUD. That is just more FUD.

]]> Comment on Thanks, Mr Weir by Chris Cunningham http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/thanks-mr-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-1051 Chris Cunningham Fri, 02 Nov 2012 21:45:40 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/thanks-mr-weir/#comment-1051 It also appears that disapproving comments are being moderated from the comments section of said blog post. Hardly surprising for such a deeply dishonest individual. Indicative of the Apache Foundation's enthusiasm to be a stalking horse for proprietary interests at odds with the principles of free software. Chris It also appears that disapproving comments are being moderated from the comments section of said blog post. Hardly surprising for such a deeply dishonest individual. Indicative of the Apache Foundation’s enthusiasm to be a stalking horse for proprietary interests at odds with the principles of free software.

Chris

]]> Comment on Really, Mr Weir ? by Fitoschido http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/really-mr-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-1050 Fitoschido Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:57:55 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/really-mr-weir/#comment-1050 Yeah, he looks desperate. But just ignore him. Yeah, he looks desperate. But just ignore him.

]]> Comment on Thanks, Mr Weir by LibreOffice Pushes Back, Releases 3.6.3 | PHP World http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/thanks-mr-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-1049 LibreOffice Pushes Back, Releases 3.6.3 | PHP World Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:13:08 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/thanks-mr-weir/#comment-1049 [...] first said those figures given in that announcement were "estimates," which was one of Weir points. [...] [...] first said those figures given in that announcement were "estimates," which was one of Weir points. [...]

]]> Comment on Really, Mr Weir ? by Mark http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/really-mr-weir/comment-page-1/#comment-1047 Mark Thu, 01 Nov 2012 18:26:44 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/11/really-mr-weir/#comment-1047 Please don't feed the troll. He is just seeking attention. And you are giving it to him. Your last post was spot on. This is the backlash of a scared man. Just leave it at that. Taking him seriously only encourages him to write more and more nastier insane FUD. The fact that he isn't able to concentrate and make his own project relevant says enough. Please don’t feed the troll.
He is just seeking attention.
And you are giving it to him.

Your last post was spot on. This is the backlash of a scared man.
Just leave it at that. Taking him seriously only encourages him to
write more and more nastier insane FUD. The fact that he isn’t
able to concentrate and make his own project relevant says
enough.

]]> Comment on LibreOffice and Mountain Lion (MacOS X 10.8) by Andrew Perry http://www.italovignoli.org/2012/08/libreoffice-and-mountain-lion-macos-x-10-8/comment-page-1/#comment-1046 Andrew Perry Tue, 30 Oct 2012 05:48:01 +0000 http://www.italovignoli.org/?p=856#comment-1046 Markus F. - the image files don't have retina versions so while it works, it is not as sharp as it could be on the Retina Display. Markus F. – the image files don’t have retina versions so while it works, it is not as sharp as it could be on the Retina Display.

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